Il est temps de séparer les collabos des big tech des libristes ayant une colonne vertébrale politique et éthique.
Ce mélange des genres n'a que trop duré.
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debian
#Debian Turns 33 Years Old, Happy Birthday! https://9to5linux.com/debian-turns-33-years-old-happy-birthday
I am exceptionally disappointed in the centrist decision taken by #Debian on LLM usage. I'll be halting any work I do that might benefit Debian, including reporting bugs.
I have used Debian since at least 2000, but I will be actively working to find another "default" #Linux distribution.
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so i have questions about #Debian:
1. are members ONLY developers?
2. only developers argued for/against #LLM #AI?
devs are the last people who should be involved in discussions about the ethics and legality of software. ie:
just reckoned, when a court recently decided you can't claim #copyright on #aislop, it didn't occur to me it means both closed and open copyright.
so, if using #LLMs trained on works stolen or added without consent removes any claims of #FLOSS: what is Debian now?
There was a sense in the Inkscape project that it should be the developer team that decided what the AI policy should be.
I flatty rejected this.
Because most of the consequences for the project, for our users and for the world have absolutely nothing to do with developing software. It's reputation, risk, relationships and community standards and morality.
The last thing I wanted was important decisions to be pre-narrowed to questions of technical usefulness.
I will never understand how the project that respected licenses and trademarks so much that they forked the entire #Mozilla stack to comply ever decided that #AI usage could ever be considered ethical.
I have many machines that are somehow related to @pidgin's development and the vast majority of them run #debian. To keep #AI out of #Pidgin, I now I need to find a new distribution. This is yet another example of me having to pay into the #AI time deficit. 🙄
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian%E2%80%93Mozilla_trademark_dispute
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Generative AI is a machine which immediately eats any human creativity we might dare come up with, so that it can be sold back to us by tech oligarchs.
There is no "responsible" use of this. It is an enclosure of knowledge and a massive power grab. One of the most disgusting uses of technology outside of warfare (but it's used there too!). If you feel like it's helping you write code or whatever... in the end, it really isn't. It's helping the tech oligarchs monopolize OSS. 1/3
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CERN is moving its industrial computers and embedded systems to Debian 13, with over 2,200 devices targeted by year’s end.
https://linuxiac.com/debian-13-is-taking-over-2200-control-systems-across-cern/
I have decided to shut down my #mastodon instance, and all my public facing web services.
This will happen in 3 months time, on November 29, 2026, to allow everyone to backup and migrate.
The reason for this is that I can no longer trust:
- the #Linux kernel
- #Debian
- rails
- most #Foss projects
Additionally, I'm basically out of storage, it is unaffordable to purchase more, and no one is interested in donating to help.
Our bastion of free computing has been poisoned by fascist gen ai slop, and basically NONE of it can be trusted anymore.
It's impossible to vet slop from an ecosystem that is welcoming of it.
This makes it nearly impossible to update my systems, which makes it harder to pretend it's even remotely secure.
I'm fucking devestated - gutted by what has happened to computing, and I just do not have the resources to keep fighting.
Fuck all you #LLM boosters into the sun. May you learn the folly of your way and DO SOMETHING TO FIX IT!
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So, according to some people #Debian is now a "slop operating system".
Because they *checks notes* accepted "responsible use of generative AI".
My personal stance on the matter:
- AI good or bad is a different discussion
- like in many scenarios, "it's not that simple" applies here as well
- AI code is already present in every Linux distribution via the kernel
- AI code is already present in Linux software, regardless of the distro
- Debian didn't open a previously closed door, and this door doesn't lead to hell either
- most software available in Debian, and any other Linux distro, is written by independent coders - Debian simply packages it
- if these coders use AI to produce their code, blaming Debian is a moot point
- Debian has a 30 year standing reputation of providing a quality product and this will not change
- all contributions submitted to Debian must qualify the high standard of quality, maintainability etc expected - this means: no slop
- if you're strongly opposed to coders using AI tools (which is in your rights), blaming Debian for that is probably the wrong tree to bark under.
Think hard before taking actions, and even harder before posting about it online.
Disclaimer: I am a Debian user, not otherwise linked to the Debian project.
This is my personal opinion.
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