The only relevant feature for any instant messaging app (or social app, for that matter) is: Are my friends using it? People will gladly overlook minor inconsistencies or missing features as long as they can communicate with their friends. We shouldn’t recommend #Signal as a stepping stone before Jabber/XMPP becomes "good enough," if goodness is defined by the number of people using it.
xmpp
Gotta love how there’s a single nice, modern XMPP client for desktop and its encryption scheme is incompatible with every other XMPP client. Nice things just weren’t meant to be had, were they? 
On my recent #Lufthansa flight, I noticed their free messaging plan on FlyNet Wi-Fi allows #XMPP traffic (likely via port 5223), but HTTP uploads were blocked. So, I added a new feature to #Conversations_im that lets users retry failed uploads via Jingle P2P file transfer, which will fall back to IBB if needed. Can’t wait to test it on the return flight! ✈️
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Interessante!
Servidor compatível com XAMPU(XMPP) e fácil de instalar num Raspberry Pi:
On the #xmpp front, I know if it were different times under different thoughts on interoperability, but wouldn't gchat and facebook messenger just need to remove their walls to make them interoperable?
Absolutely nobody knows what an XMPP address is, so just go ahead and call it a:
#XMPP #Conversations_im #Jabber
Options: (choose one)
hm, is it a good idea to self host some XMPP server? What would be a nice one?
#askfedi #xmpp #selfhosting
What is anno 2026 better for instant messaging? Think about the best combination of user experience/friendliness, privacy and security. I choose these two after researching decentralized Whatsapp/Signal alternatives.
#XMPP #DeltaChat #WhatsApp #Signal #IM #InstantMessaging #poll
Options: (choose one)
WRT #Discord, there's an effectively unsolvable conundrum we can't really face, folks. We'd all like the high moral standards that are found in the #OpenSource community, when done right: nobody screwing each other over for their PII, and other forms of leverage (walled-garden lock-in). Geeks get this, normies don't. (This gulf is very hard to cross, IMHO, without resorting to actual educational curriculum explaining it in schools.)
But then we have conflicting desires: we *also* want the buttery smoothness to a secure messaging ecosystem - total convenience, total functionality, *complete with a level-playing-field, "Net Neutral" infrastructure to run it on*, with no lobbied government or tech-bro interference skewing the traffic rules (QOS Rules). Good luck with that one, without strong gov't control, and solid grassroots lobbying behind it.
Lets be honest: #Signal is so great *because tens of millions of dollars were charitably spent on it*. Moxie didn't do his genius work *for free*. Where are tens of millions of *more* dollars going to come from, to make a Discord alternative? Would that be nowhere? Look, there's no quick and easy answers to Discord enshittifying. I've looked at #XMPP, #Matrix, #Deltachat, #Discourse, #Flarum, #PHPBB, #Zulip, #Mattermost, etc. and *each has its warts*. You'll dislike each of them, for different reasons. Each paints itself into a different corner. *There were no tens of millions of dollars upfront, at an early design phase, overlooked by qualified Computer Scientists, to prevent this, in each and every case.* #IRC doesn't bear mention in this comparison. None is the perfect replacement or answer. *None had those tens of millions of dollars which Signal had.*
Alas, they don't stand a chance to be the all-singing, all-dancing solutions that the techbros can finance, *along with their predictable, rotten lack of a moral compass to accompany the slickness.* Every non-geek teenager will side with the techbros, owing to 1) convenience, and 2) that's where their friends are, *which mean the world to a teenager*.
So in summary, we are doomed by our own psychological limitations, as a demographic. The psychological predators - the techbros - can't help but prey on the normies, and the normies can't help but turn to the predators, who at least offer convenience, if no other thing. And the geeks who have a moral compass stand in the middle, ignored by-and-large, feeling anxious and powerless, not having any tens of millions of dollars behind their altruism.
Seria top o Governo ter uma plataforma dele de comunicação onde todos serviços públicos comuniquem com cidadãos por ali. Dentro do app Gov.br.
O Governo mantém sua soberania, não obriga cidadão a usar solução prioritária de bilionário e se fosse federado com XMPP o cidadão que já tem outra conta poderia comunicar, por exemplo, do seu isaCloud Messenger com os contatos dos serviços públicos sem precisar entrar no Gov.br.
Poderiam usar o próprio nome do canal deles que é Fala.BR.
O XMPP é realmente foda porque é descentralizado, federado, livre e tecnologicamente incrível ❤️
Kann mir jemand einen vertrauenswürdigen xmpp-server empfehlen
#xmpp
anybody have any xmpp public server recommendations?
@0x7700e6 you asked for it, we did it!
Movim can now stream your tab or desktop audio when doing a video call ✨
We also improved the layout to clarify when someone is streaming with a [Live 🔴] status and the current resolution of the streamed video.
A little note: audio sharing is not available on all the browser and OS, checkout the compatibility tab there: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Screen_Capture_API/Using_Screen_Capture#browser_compatibility
One of the many #Discord features that is now available on Movim and in the #XMPP ecosystem 💪😸
You want to help us in this awesome journey? Support us on our Patreon 🤗: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bye-bye-discord-150553921
Getting back to work, see you 👀!
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#XMPP / #Jabber accounts to follow:
➡️ @joinjabber - Collective helping ordinary people join and use XMPP/Jabber
➡️ @xmpp - Discussion group about XMPP/Jabber
➡️ @xmpp@fosstodon.org - Official account of XMPP standards foundation
➡️ @xmpp_providers - Site featuring curated list of XMPP providers
➡️ @gajim - FOSS XMPP app for Linux, Mac, Win
➡️ @Monal - FOSS XMPP app for iPhone, iPad, Mac
➡️ @kaidan - FOSS XMPP app for Linux, Android
➡️ @prav - Free open XMPP app developed by co-op in India
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Au cours d'une sortie peinture céramique j'ai peint ce mug aux couleurs de Debian 
et de XMPP 
Are there any communication/texting apps or software that are confirmed not to use any AI or LLMs in their code or coding process? Software with clear no-AI policies?
Self-hosting, E2EE, and open source would also be good, but for now I'm just wondering if there are any anti-AI chat app lists out there.
#AntiAI #NoAI #Discord #XMPP #Jabber #DeltaChat #IRC #NoLLM #NoLLMs
Provo #xmpp per ora non mi sta entusiasmando... Qualcuno qui lo usa?
Happy Pride Month!! 🏳️⚧️️🏳️🌈️💜️
Its no secret that historically XMPP has done/is doing a bad job as an ecosystem and protocol to develop features that aid 2SLGBTQIA+ people to be their true selves or protect them from abuse.
With Pride Month happening we are taking the next step after creating our own CoC and advocating for CoCs to be adopted. Historically 2SLGBTQIA+ people have been "advisors" or just an opinion to listen to.
#xmpp #jabber #pride #pride2025
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Me, my ego and myself are trying #xmpp out.
Is someone here using it also or are there channels to recommend?
Thanks
#Matrix spent a decade turning the problem of worrying about which extensions your server supports into worrying about which room version your server supports.
Meanwhile, the #XMPP community got their act together, reached a rough consensus on which extensions are worth pursuing, and now you can install any of the four major servers without having to worry about what extensions are working behind the scenes.
Finally I have a post for you #XMPP fans! 🚀🎉 I want your advise. 🙏🏻
I want to run a XMPP server for only myself. I will run it on a Debian 12 vps with Nginx and Postgresql.
If I check https://xmpp.org/software/?platform=linux I see eight listed.
So finally I'm looking for this:
* easy to install, easy to update, but no Docker, just cli
* regularly updated
* e2e enforced (or at least default)
* light on resources
Any ideas?