hm, is it a good idea to self host some XMPP server? What would be a nice one?
#askfedi #xmpp #selfhosting
xmpp
What is anno 2026 better for instant messaging? Think about the best combination of user experience/friendliness, privacy and security. I choose these two after researching decentralized Whatsapp/Signal alternatives.
#XMPP #DeltaChat #WhatsApp #Signal #IM #InstantMessaging #poll
Options: (choose one)
WRT #Discord, there's an effectively unsolvable conundrum we can't really face, folks. We'd all like the high moral standards that are found in the #OpenSource community, when done right: nobody screwing each other over for their PII, and other forms of leverage (walled-garden lock-in). Geeks get this, normies don't. (This gulf is very hard to cross, IMHO, without resorting to actual educational curriculum explaining it in schools.)
But then we have conflicting desires: we *also* want the buttery smoothness to a secure messaging ecosystem - total convenience, total functionality, *complete with a level-playing-field, "Net Neutral" infrastructure to run it on*, with no lobbied government or tech-bro interference skewing the traffic rules (QOS Rules). Good luck with that one, without strong gov't control, and solid grassroots lobbying behind it.
Lets be honest: #Signal is so great *because tens of millions of dollars were charitably spent on it*. Moxie didn't do his genius work *for free*. Where are tens of millions of *more* dollars going to come from, to make a Discord alternative? Would that be nowhere? Look, there's no quick and easy answers to Discord enshittifying. I've looked at #XMPP, #Matrix, #Deltachat, #Discourse, #Flarum, #PHPBB, #Zulip, #Mattermost, etc. and *each has its warts*. You'll dislike each of them, for different reasons. Each paints itself into a different corner. *There were no tens of millions of dollars upfront, at an early design phase, overlooked by qualified Computer Scientists, to prevent this, in each and every case.* #IRC doesn't bear mention in this comparison. None is the perfect replacement or answer. *None had those tens of millions of dollars which Signal had.*
Alas, they don't stand a chance to be the all-singing, all-dancing solutions that the techbros can finance, *along with their predictable, rotten lack of a moral compass to accompany the slickness.* Every non-geek teenager will side with the techbros, owing to 1) convenience, and 2) that's where their friends are, *which mean the world to a teenager*.
So in summary, we are doomed by our own psychological limitations, as a demographic. The psychological predators - the techbros - can't help but prey on the normies, and the normies can't help but turn to the predators, who at least offer convenience, if no other thing. And the geeks who have a moral compass stand in the middle, ignored by-and-large, feeling anxious and powerless, not having any tens of millions of dollars behind their altruism.
Seria top o Governo ter uma plataforma dele de comunicação onde todos serviços públicos comuniquem com cidadãos por ali. Dentro do app Gov.br.
O Governo mantém sua soberania, não obriga cidadão a usar solução prioritária de bilionário e se fosse federado com XMPP o cidadão que já tem outra conta poderia comunicar, por exemplo, do seu isaCloud Messenger com os contatos dos serviços públicos sem precisar entrar no Gov.br.
Poderiam usar o próprio nome do canal deles que é Fala.BR.
O XMPP é realmente foda porque é descentralizado, federado, livre e tecnologicamente incrível ❤️
@0x7700e6 you asked for it, we did it!
Movim can now stream your tab or desktop audio when doing a video call ✨
We also improved the layout to clarify when someone is streaming with a [Live 🔴] status and the current resolution of the streamed video.
A little note: audio sharing is not available on all the browser and OS, checkout the compatibility tab there: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Screen_Capture_API/Using_Screen_Capture#browser_compatibility
One of the many #Discord features that is now available on Movim and in the #XMPP ecosystem 💪😸
You want to help us in this awesome journey? Support us on our Patreon 🤗: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bye-bye-discord-150553921
Getting back to work, see you 👀!
Are there any communication/texting apps or software that are confirmed not to use any AI or LLMs in their code or coding process? Software with clear no-AI policies?
Self-hosting, E2EE, and open source would also be good, but for now I'm just wondering if there are any anti-AI chat app lists out there.
#AntiAI #NoAI #Discord #XMPP #Jabber #DeltaChat #IRC #NoLLM #NoLLMs
Happy Pride Month!! 🏳️⚧️️🏳️🌈️💜️
Its no secret that historically XMPP has done/is doing a bad job as an ecosystem and protocol to develop features that aid 2SLGBTQIA+ people to be their true selves or protect them from abuse.
With Pride Month happening we are taking the next step after creating our own CoC and advocating for CoCs to be adopted. Historically 2SLGBTQIA+ people have been "advisors" or just an opinion to listen to.
#xmpp #jabber #pride #pride2025
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Me, my ego and myself are trying #xmpp out.
Is someone here using it also or are there channels to recommend?
Thanks
#Matrix spent a decade turning the problem of worrying about which extensions your server supports into worrying about which room version your server supports.
Meanwhile, the #XMPP community got their act together, reached a rough consensus on which extensions are worth pursuing, and now you can install any of the four major servers without having to worry about what extensions are working behind the scenes.
Finally I have a post for you #XMPP fans! 🚀🎉 I want your advise. 🙏🏻
I want to run a XMPP server for only myself. I will run it on a Debian 12 vps with Nginx and Postgresql.
If I check https://xmpp.org/software/?platform=linux I see eight listed.
So finally I'm looking for this:
* easy to install, easy to update, but no Docker, just cli
* regularly updated
* e2e enforced (or at least default)
* light on resources
Any ideas?
Hice un vídeo para que puedas enviárselo a tus personas cercanas, explicando lo fácil que es dejar #WhatsApp, y por qué es importante hacerlo. 💬
https://fediverse.tv/w/35Lvufq1XW8ZVBTptzYMDS (@ivangj)
También disponible en YouTube por si quieres evitar rozamientos 😅.
#SoftwareLibre #PeerTube #Chat #Signal #XMPP #DeltaChat #Matrix
do any #XMPP clients/servers have any extensions for custom emojis, or embeds or the like
i honestly wonder whether the real answer to where to move to after discord is XMPP, but there just isn’t a good looking client for it yet
Eigentlich nutzt #WhatsApp doch das ganz bekannte und eigentlich offne #XMPP Protokoll. War im Herbst nicht mal die Rede davon, dass WhatsApp nicht Schnittstellen schaffen muss, um Chats auch mit anderen Clients zu ermöglichen? Habe es eben getestet und habe nur #Birdychat gefunden. Sehr ernüchternt. Mal sehen ob das mal besser wird. .. und vielleicht auch wirklich offen, dass ich mein geliebtes #Pidgin für #Jabber wieder dafür nutzen kann. Offen für alles.
Hace no mucho, en el grupo “#DOCENC”, que tenemos en #XMPP, nos enviaron algo que despertó mi interés. Alguien compartió unos sellos cuyo propósito es emplearlos como marcadores para indicar cuándo algo se ha creado sin la intervención de inteligencias artificiales generativas (#IAGen ). Los primeros en ser compartidos fueron los de “#notbyAI”, pero a mi me parecieron demasiado simplones. Luego alguien compartió unos nuevos creados por Hinokodo, pero se centra mucho en la afirmativa del ser humano y no en la negativa de las IAGen. Y luego alguien nos pasó otro enlace, del repositorio Edit.org, donde hay un buen puñado, pero todas se me antojaban simples, como creadas a partir de imágenes rediseñadas.
Como ninguna me convencía, me propuse crear mis propios diseños. ¿Por qué no? Así que le pedí consejo a @Irashila, y con sus comentarios me puse manos a la obra. Este es el resultado.
#IA
https://varyingweion.itch.io/sellos-sin-ia
En ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/Post/Sellos-sin-inteligencia-artificial-N4N21J9EUN
Y en Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/135849292
I'm excited to announce that #Convo, my #XMPP messaging app for #KaiOS has received a grant from @nlnet, or, more specifically, @NGIZero! 🎉 🤸
https://nlnet.nl/project/Convo/
I can now turn what began as a quick project made in a providential three weeks of free time into an app that can...actually do basic things like add contacts 😅
More importantly, it'll make the open and standardised messaging protocol available to a mobile platform where few large players have dared to tread 👟
I have tried to deploy #Snikket. Gave up after I didn't manage to convince it to not manage TLS certificates itself.
I have tried to deploy #Prosody, Snikket's underlying project. Gave up after I didn't manage to configure it enough for it to be happy.
I have tried to deploy #ejabberd. Gave up after I realized how underdocumented and confusing the configuration is, convinced I wouldn't be able to secure it enough.
Is there really no good #XMPP server that would just work? I am annoyed.

